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to the situation where a practitioner is

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treating a patient the first thing that

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we you know thought about was distance

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because I as many of you know that just

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believe that she can act at a distance

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again move and in this case looking at

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this infrasonic component of Chico so

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you know we just said well you know does

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it happen I mean it does it does it

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decrease with this system of course it

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does it it acted like we expected so

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this would this would you know push it

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to the to the idea that we're going to

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talk about external chi go home and

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Kim's therapy combination you'd really

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want to be talking about close up to

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going rather than the distance she go

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and I want to end with this you know

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somewhat provocative reflection on this

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because as I said in the beginning with

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it my instruction for dumping buckets

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there was this a clear instruction by my

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teacher that you want to not make the

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chi go deep into your head until you get

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to your body where you will and let it

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penetrate so external to go or internal

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chi gong in the case of integrating this

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with a chemotherapy treatment you'd want

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to do the exact opposite because the

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whole point is you want to have a lower

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dose of chemotherapy in the body and you

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don't want to make those cells more

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sensitive to chemotherapy you want to

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make the cells inside the skull more

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sensitive because that's where you want

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to keep it there to be effective so it's

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a bit of a flip-flop from from the

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normal description of geo at least on

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the way that I was taught so and with

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yes in concern that kind of energy no we

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generally think that the effects are

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gonna he mention any key measure it

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decided you was connect with you know

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altars of the RFS we use when the sin of

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the same way and it's got some kind of

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sweater effect we under think by he and

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may not be uniform of the selectively

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frequencies Delta yet another chamber

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has a heating element that surrounds the

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that p treats so it's actually not a

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petri dish you know these cell culture

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plate has a metal frame that controls

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the heat of this of the of the plate and

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so we have a thermistor that we'd set up

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actually for the Chico experiments with

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actual chi gong practitioners earlier so

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we did see confirm that our heat plate

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that was controlling the heat so they're

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two separate heating elements one for

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the plate and one for the outside of the

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chamber so we did confirm that the heat

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controlling element was was overpowering

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any kind of heating that was coming from

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the these tissues absorb this energy

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yes what ammo so we didn't measure the

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temperature of the outside of the cells

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so the effect that the cells could could

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be due to that I don't know question is

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you feel just a little bit of it I have

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these American Way of beef jerky I had

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to do to Train another question what

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happened to the way out thank you for

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reminding whales rhinoceros HIPAA

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pontiff opotamus giraffe and alligators

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are now on the list as well I've using

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so I what I'm saying is that these known

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components are part of external chi gong

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treatment and as distinct as distinct

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from chi itself so these were studies

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done just to see a note with the known

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tools we have what can we measure coming

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movies

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and not too far off

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yeah Ruth

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yeah we went looking for that sweet spot

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by choosing these sub pics so we've only

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at this point looked at these three that

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i showed the 8 8.5 10.5 i should say

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there's those were the two sweet spot

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attempts and then the 15 were just meant

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to be the upper limit of what was coming

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drowned my guess is that it's possible

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to do that and I'd love to get in there

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look to me like you had a very valuable

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effects of different cell lines and if

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going to your error bars it looked like

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only the difficulty

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in one of those seven third one after a

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values were significant or not the

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implication for clinical applications

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considering your FX eat only working one

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of those so it was significant and

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restless now with very significant in

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three and yes I think it's that's why we

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were wearing is it to look at the

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of the last update because it indicates

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that it's not going to work for every

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tumor and so the chance is it would

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actually fit into a clinical work male

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scenario the tumors excised you'd have a

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chance to quickly look at impress on was

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going to be effective in increasing the

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uptake of the chemotherapy and then

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determine where they would be useful for

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that particular you know patient yes how

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do you control for the effect of

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intention here how do you know that I

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result so due to infrasound and not the

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intention of the

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experiment I ought to think because we

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we have I got to think if we did

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blinding on these experiments we you

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know these these particular set of

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experiments have grown out of many years

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of working with chi gong practitioners

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where we have blinding up the yin-yang

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and we have random number generators

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devised just to place the cells and

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maintain the incubators and I want I

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want to say that we did not align these

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experiments our control condition was in

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the environmental chamber at the same

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time but away from there was actually we

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had two generators one turned on one

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turn off just to control there's a

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magnet inside of that trendy transducer

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head so we control for magnetism and we

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did not control for intention any